Quayle: What you'll go into is neotribalism, and that's a good word. The word tribe scares people, but basically, people who have a commonality of beliefs or a commonality of interests will pursue those commonalities and will band together. And it will kind-of be like—what was the name of that gang movie? Young Warriors or something like that. What will happen is, people will become localized. Fortunately, in communities with strong moral values, they can keep their continuity together. But I doubt that you're going to be able to keep the continuity of life together in, say, Newark, New Jersey.

Martin: Well, let's say if all communication goes down, and all media goes down, the economy will be crippled. So, let's say, automatically, there will be no money, and no communication.

Quayle: Everything will revert to barter.

Martin: It gets basic, real quick.

Quayle: A good portal into the future is watching what's happening to Argentina. The people have been locked-out of the banks. They have no money. So, people who know how to do things are trading their services for goods, and their goods for services. And that's why people have got to be thinking: What will they have that people want? Certainly CDs, records, and luxury items will not be high on the list; but what will be a priority are: toilet paper, food; obviously food will be number one.

Martin: Seed.

Quayle: Seed, water, water filtration, solar, solar-power. Self-defense is a big issue, too. And, obviously, I'm not a pacifist. And I recommend that every woman who is aware of what's going on, becomes proficient with a handgun, and is trained at an indoor range or something. By the way, women who are trained, historically, shoot better than men who think they're trained. A woman who is trained is a better shot than a man who thinks he's Wyatt Earp. I've watched it. I've owned indoor shooting ranges.

Martin: How effective do you think the Government's ability will be to disarm the population, if those scenarios came down?

Quayle: I don't think they want to. I think the "threat" of disarming is there. I think the bottom line is—and when I say "the Government", I call them "the Shadow Masters of the Global Puppet Masters".

Martin: Let's call them "the Shadow Government".

Quayle: Let's use that. I think the Shadow Government is using that as a threat, but when they've got the biologicals, it's a moot point to take away a gun when everyone is dead because of a genetically-altered form of a virus or bacteria.

It's like the Spanish Flu in 1918. These morons have dug-up cadavers and recultured the active pathogen of the Spanish Flu that killed 20 million people!

So, let me say this: When Solomon said: "There's nothing new under the Sun" even the stuff these guys are doing, there's just nothing new. These people, they absolutely have contempt for human beings.

Martin: I get so mad when I think about this stuff.

Quayle: It's really psychologically devastating.

Martin: Yes, it's paralyzing.

Quayle: Right. And that's what I'm trying to do. The purpose of me telling the stuff I tell, day-in and day-out, on the radio programs, and on my website, is to HELP PEOPLE BECOME VICTORS, NOT VICTIMS. The thing they've got to realize is, they can count on no one. And in the time of panic, they've got to have all their ducks lined-up.

Martin: Gordon Thomas is accurate, I'm sure, when he says: "Every day from 9/11 is one day closer to the next one."

Quayle: He's absolutely accurate, and in my opinion—and I have to tell you, I read thousands and thousands of articles from around the world in a given year. I probably read 50-60 articles, from different world papers, a day, and that's a lot. But the bottom-line is, I think Gordon is one of the most succinct—and when I say this, he's got a reality-base of the world, and I find him incredibly accurate.

Martin: I do, too.

Quayle: I've got to tell you, his article on Junping was fabulous, and everyone missed it.

Martin: Any closing statement that puts—

Quayle: Some hope into the equation?

Martin: Yes.

Quayle: First of all, they're not going to succeed, ok? And I want you to know that. All of their plans, and all of their schemes, are not going to succeed.

Number two, people can take their lives back from being just canon-fodder, if they will make an effort, first of all, to learn everything they can about biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. If they prepare, accordingly, with emergency supplies, they're not going to be victims, and they're not going to have to go out into harm's way, to acquire what they got prior to harm's way. Do you follow what I'm saying?

Martin: Yes, I do.

Quayle: In other words, if you've got groceries, Rick, you don't have to go down to Ralph's, and stand in line with everybody, when they begin to riot.

The other thing is, I really believe with all my heart that people are going to have to recognize that there is a supernatural Evil out there. And the only way to defeat supernatural Evil, in my opinion, is with supernatural Good. And I believe that the Bible is the only book in the world. I'm not trying to get preachy; but I don't apologize for my faith, either.

If you read the 91st Psalm, it talks about the plagues. Here's the deal: We're coming up against things that are so overwhelming that only, in my opinion, the Living God, who is above and beyond all that is overwhelming us, can deliver us from it. I believe we do everything we can do. We do the possible, and then we believe, by faith, that God will do the impossible.

And I fought with the Special Forces— that's not physically, but verbally—with the guys who put out the Special Forces Underground publication, and he told me I was appealing to some nameless diety.

Martin: That's the only hope there is.

Quayle: And I said, I want to tell you something: General Montgomery, when he was kneeling in the desert sands in the battle of Al Alaman and there was no human or natural possibility that they could win, he bowed in the sand, he had all of his men bow, and they prayed. He said this, it's a classic statement. He said: "Let us ask the Lord, who is mighty in battle, to give us the victory." And here's a man, you read the historic accounts of him, Montgomery was no pushover.

Martin: And George Washington did the same.

Quayle: He did the same. So, I'm telling people that an active faith in the Living God, in my opinion, will be critical, crucial, the ultimate place of retreat. And then, you can quote me, referring people to Psalm 91.

Martin: If it wasn't for God's presence in this scenario, it would be—

Quayle: Hopeless.

Martin: It would be bleak.

Quayle: As a Christian, I wouldn't shoot myself. But for someone who has no hope, and is looking at this, I can see why people become, back to your word, Rick, paralyzed, because it is overwhelming.

The best way to deal with this is, you've got to take this in the bites that you can.

And this is where your skill comes in. If, again, you weave in that, look, if you're not being told this in the main-stream press, then obviously the main-stream is not the place to look for truth. And as you apply yourself to knowledge, and get a, if you will, backbone of understanding, that backbone of understanding can propel you to take the actions that can get you and your loved ones out of harm's way.

Martin: I've been involved in journalism for a while now [12 years], and the danger comes when, say, 10 years ago I was writing about "store food" and "store seed" and "do what you need to, to be ready"—it's almost like crying fire in a crowded theater. If you do that enough times and nothing happens, then people think: "Well, it's a safe world."

And yet, it's not a safe world, and those recommendations were good then, and they're still good. And if you buy insurance for your car, health insurance, and life insurance, consider it insurance. And it's a write-off. How wrong can you go by preparing? There's absolutely nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

Quayle: If people will spend—let's take life insurance. You have to die to collect. What I'm proposing is life assurance; you get to live and benefit.

Martin: Excellent phrase.

Quayle: Ok?

Martin: Thank you so much for taking the time to speak with our readers. What you have shared with us will be much appreciated.